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It's hilarious you would even respond and shows your lack of self education Sources like Bailey et al. and Kirkpatrick discuss these complexities in greater detail, I just provided the sources for you. Which you are completely overlooking. But, fine I will dismantle the second claims just to prove your idiocy. However, if you fail to educate yourself a 2nd time. You will not get a 3rd response. Your argument misunderstands both genetics and evolution. Not all traits need to directly enhance repro to persist in a population. Genetic traits related to sexual orientation might be carried and passed on by heterosexual relatives or through other mechanisms, where supporting relatives' offspring enhances overall genetic success. Additionally, many LGBTQ+ people do have biological children, so genes associated with these orientations can be passed on. Complex traits, like sexual orientation, don't follow simple genetic patterns, and evolutionary success isn't solely about direct reproduction



   
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"Homosexual genes would rapidly fade from the population due to lower fertility rates":

Evolution is not solely about direct reproduction. Genetic traits can persist for various reasons, such as selection, where individuals who don't reproduce directly might still help relatives (who share many of their genes) to succeed. Additionally, genetic traits can be recessive or polygenic, meaning they don't necessarily disappear quickly, even if not all individuals carrying them reproduce. Also, many LGBTQ+ people do have biological children, ensuring that any associated genes continue to be passed on.



   
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"A homosexual gene would fall out of the gene pool every time it expresses itself":

This overlooks how genes actually work. A gene influencing homosexuality might not result in exclusive homosexuality; it could manifest as bisexuality or only partially affect sexual orientation. Moreover, such genes could have other effects that contribute to reproductive success in other contexts. It's also important to note that sexual orientation is influenced by multiple genes and environmental factors, making it unlikely that a "homosexual gene" would simply disappear.



   
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"Ask any genetics teacher: Could homosexuality be genetic if there is no mechanism for gays to pass their genes on to children as frequently as straights?":

This is a simplification. Many genetic traits persist in populations without being directly tied to high reproduction rates. Genes influencing homosexuality could be linked to other traits that enhance survival or reproduction in other ways, or they could persist because not all individuals with those genes are exclusively homosexual. Additionally, as mentioned earlier, LGBTQ+ individuals do have children, passing on their genes.



   
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Source: Rahman, Q., & Wilson, G. D. (2003). Born gay? The psychobiology of human sexual orientation. Personality and Individual Differences, 34(8), 1337-1382.  Sanders, A. R., Beecham, G. W., Guo, S., Dawood, K., Rieger, G., Badner, J. A., ... & Bailey, J. M. (2017). Genome-wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation. Scientific Reports, 7(1), 1-9.Gates, G. J. (2013). LGBT Parenting in the United States. The Williams Institute, UCLA School of Law.Zietsch, B. P., Morley, K. I., Shekar, S. N., Verweij, K. J., Keller, M. C., Macgregor, S., ... & Martin, N. G. (2008). Genetic factors predisposing to homosexuality may increase mating success in heterosexuals. Evolution and Human Behavior, 29(6), 424-433.



   
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Source: Chauncey, G. (1994). Gay New York: Gender, Urban Culture, and the Making of the Gay Male World, 1890-1940. Basic Books. Rice, W. R., Friberg, U., & Gavrilets, S. (2012). Homosexuality as a consequence of epigenetically canalized sexual development. The Quarterly Review of Biology, 87(4), 343-368.



   
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Unless your response is backed by researched data on these matters, I will not be engaging further. I have provided well-supported sources that dismantle your theories on evolution and genetics. If you have credible sources that counter these, I'm open to reviewing them. Otherwise, continuing this discussion without evidence just feeds idiocy.



   
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I want to clarify that while I don't necessarily support all LGBTQ+ policies or lifestyles, my main focus is on the importance of freedom of information and the power of education. I believe in upholding facts and data, regardless of personal beliefs. Even if I disagree with certain aspects of the LGBTQ+ movement, I don't allow those disagreements to distort or dismiss the evidence that supports their claims.



   
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